
Tech and Test
Tech and Test unravels the intricacies of technology, delves into the world of software engineering, and challenge the boundaries of software testing. Your host Peter Johnson will help you navigate the digital landscape, exploring the latest in tech, sharing insights into software development, and talking to the people that drive our digital world.
Whether you’re a coding guru, a testing pro, or just tech-curious, Tech and Test is your dedicated podcast for in-depth discussions, interviews with industry experts, and conversations that will inspire you.
Tech and Test
Testing What Matters: With Elliott Clark of Batteries Included
On the latest episode of Tech and Test, I’m joined by Elliott Clark, CEO and founder of Batteries Included, for a deep and thoughtful conversation about the cost of testing, what to test (and when), and how to align engineering efforts with your company's mission.
We cover:
🧪 What testing is really worth investing in — and where to avoid the trap of "just write more tests"
⚖️ Balancing the cost of testing with the speed of product delivery
🧠 Testing ML systems — and why they require a very different mindset
📊 Using probabilistic approaches to simulate production traffic data
📈 Why choosing the right data and metrics is essential to ensuring your engineering team is actually solving the right problems
🎯 How to make sure your tests, tools, and tracking all support your company’s mission
A deep dive into the real-world trade-offs of testing at scale — the pain points, the payoffs, and how to make it all work.
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